2am, 2ne1, baek jiyoung, big bang, brown eyed girls, Davichi, epik high, gee, hoot, k-chart, kara, lee hyori, lee seung gi, mc mong, Music Bank, Rain, sg wannabe, shinee, snsd, ss501, super junior, t-ara, win, wonder girls
*Updated with how points work on Music Bank, how many wins the girls have atm, etc.
A bar graph showing the total points various KPOP artists have scored on “KBS Music Bank” since 2008 (when K-Chart began) up to July of this year. By far, SNSD has the most Music Bank K-Chart points in total. The bar graph shows that SNSD’s points are at least double the points artists, such as Big Bang, 2PM, and KARA have scored within the 2 years.
Up to this point, the girls have 21 K-Chart wins for the 5 songs,
Kissing You : 1
Gee : 11
Genie : 1
Oh : 6
Run Devil Run : 2
For those who are curious about how Music Bank K-Charts work, according to silis7noy2@soompi,
It’s bit complicated….If numbers give you a headache skip this and just look at a nice graph at the end
The 4 categories considered by Music Bank
Digital points (60%) – This is based on digital music sales from Melon, Mnet, Bugs, Dosirak and Soribada. Then mobiles sales are also added. Majority of mobile sales are from Nate ringtones sales.
Album points (10%) – This is based on sales numbers from Hanteo plus sales numbers submitted by offline music chain stores Hottracks and Synnara.
Broadcast count (20%) – the number of times the song was played on radio and TV. The points from this category is not as reliable as before, mainly because Mubank now considers broadcasts from only KBS and disregards SBS and MBC.
Viewer preference (10%) – This is voted by viewers. Viewers can register with the KBS research site to participate(Korean id needed). Then every week Mubank will select a sample from the registered members and allow them to vote. Viewers of all age/sex are evenly selected.
The detail of Music Bank ranking points is like this: First Music Bank starts with total kchart points of 200,000.
The digital sales category gets 120,000 kchart points (60%).
The album category gets 20,000 kchart points (10%).
The broadcast counts category gets 40,000 kchart points (20%)
The viewer pref category gets 20,000 kchart points (10%)
Now let’s look at how these kchart points are distributed to each song in each category. The process is very simple actually. For the digital sales category in order to simplify things only the top 100 selling songs are considered by Music Bank. Then the digital sales of all these 100 songs are examined, for example
song1 : 230,000 total digital sales this week
total digital sales 7,320,000 (total of all 100 songs above) (*of course all numbers here I just made up to illustrate, and some things are simplified for the purpose of this explanation)
How many kchart points does song1 get now?
Out of 7,320,000 total digital sales, song1 has sales of 230,000.
That is 3.142%
So song1 gets 3.142% of the 120,000 kchart pointed allotted to the digital sales category.
Thus song1’s kchart point for digital category is 3770 points.
And so on for other songs
And it works the same for other categories of album, broacast count, and viewer pref.
Now what is wrong with this Music Bank Kchart formula? The problem is that the way the points are distributed can allow one single album sales to dominate the kchart points. For example,
album1: 50,000 copies sold this week
album2: 3,000 copies
album100: 50 copies
Total album sales :80,000 copies this week
album1 alone sold 62.5% of the week’s total
album1’s kchart point will be 12,500 points out of 20,000 kchart points alloted for this category.
So unlike other categories, album sales can have these giant selling albums that can result in huge kchart points. See how tricky this formula is, the “10%” for album category makes it look like albums are worth only up to 10% but in fact that’s not the case as seen here. With kchart point like that 12,500 it is easy to win Music Bank even if the song is not popular at all and ranks very low on digital charts. We can obviously see there’s going to be controversy about this. Music Bank tried to fix this problem by adjusting the album category percentage from 15% to 10% but the problem is still there because the problem is still with the point distributing formula itself. Mathematically there are many ways to make a better formula for this case but well, we don’t need to get into that here
And as noted SNSD is not affected by these formula controversies because of their dominating power in all the categories. If Mubank lowers album category percentage even more, there will be no change in SNSD’s top Mubank power status. In fact during the Gee days Music Banks used only the digital sales for the kchart. And Gee won 9 weeks with that formula. Then people including some antis complained that Gee was able to win so many weeks because of the digital only formula so they demanded that Music Bank start including album points etc. So that was one of the reasons Music Bank changed the formula after Gee’s reign to include the 4 categories. And nothing really changed for SNSD they would still keep winning and winning, setting Music Bank records. And there have been numerous errors and glitches with sales data for SNSD especially compared to others. Even this week Nate misreported Hoot mobile sales and Ksones had to complain and correct it(it may still not be corrected). We probably lost a couple of Music Bank wins over the years because of these problems but Sones dont dwell over these little things^^
Whatever it may be the graph is believable, don’t you think? After all, during their “Gee” promotions, the girls won 9 consecutive wins for the hit song and were able to set a new record on Music Bank. Each win racked up thousands of points. I gotta admit, the girls are seriously impressive and I look forward to seeing the girls rack up more points with “Hoot” soon. Who else wants the girls win this week’s Music Bank K-Chart, especially when their album is topping the charts at the moment?
“Hoot” 1st week digital rankings
25/10: Melon (1위) Dosirak(1위) Bugs (1위) Soribada (1위)
26/10 Melon (2위) Dosirak( (1위) Bugs (1위) Soribada (2위)
27/10 Melon (2위) Dosirak((1위) Bugs (1위) Soribada(2위)
28/10 Melon (2위) Dosirak((1위) Bugs (2위) Soribada (2위)
29/10 Melon (2위) Dosirak( (1위) Bugs(2위) Soribada(1위)
30/10 Melon (1위) Dosirak( (1위) Bugs (1위) Soribada (1위)
31/10 Melon (1위) Dosirak((1위) Bugs (1위) Soribada (1위)
Weekly (25.10- 31.10 ) Melon (1위) Dorisak (1위) Bugs (6위) Soribada (1위)
Source: kidtaengoo & TangPa @ Twitter, silis7noy2 & *Cecil @soompi
Written by: ferrerorocher9@SNSDkorean.wordpress.com
WOW! thats all i gotta say ^_^
Awesome!! They are owning….I feel sorry for the rest…
SNSD OWNED IT!!!
I actually feel embarrassed for the rest. lol
AWESOME indeed 😉 !!!! Thanks for posting the news :). SNSD FIGHTING !!!!
that is incredible 🙂 SNSD JUST SIMPLY ROCKS! congratz woot woot
OWNNNNED! haha ❤
This graph made me lol
caryl mae said:
that’s WOW!! they pawned other artists..cool..snsd jjang!!
this is what snsd did to music bank: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lb96riJt4l1qajks0o1_250.gif
hahaha…. LOL SICA!
OMG TOTALLY AMAZING! They’re like doubled the amount of 2nd place! I hope they win on this weeks music bank and inki.! Also sones please continue to support SNSD because they worked hard to give us this present! Keep buying their albums if you haven’t already and streaming those sites if possible! The second week will be a tough battle between 2AM because they’re neck and neck with each other! SNSD FIGHTING! 🙂
Oh question: How is hoot on the weekly chart of BUGS 6th when everyday they were constant 1 or 2?? hmmm
so please settle this once and for all… do naver music sales not count towards anything?? >_<
WOW SNSD FIGHTING!
No matter how often and how the Music Bank changes their formulae,
SNSD still RULES!!
HOOT HOOT!! :DD
I believe we can do MORE with HOOT!!
Together we can, SONEs!!
Right now, until now, and forever, It’s Girls’ Generation!! :DD
to be fair though, big bang has not been on music bank since 2008, so if they had releases that were as frequent as snsd, it would not be such a crazy gap lol
you look like visit soompi alot ???
Soompi has taken this down since there was no permission from the writer. Maybe u guys should check. This might be potential fanwar material. Not that I’m not happy.
Boss Lady said:
silis has personally stated it is okay for fan sites of snsd to use this information but we will be asking all other sites that took from us to take it down if needed 🙂
Haha. okay . Thanks.
wow… amazing THe Girls did it… hehehehe.. Fighting SNSD… go go go ^___^… that is a huge graph
wow! when i first read it… i thought of it as a gossip…
so this is for REAL!!!
our girls even beat Rain, no hurt feelings…
9 is better than… 9 is great! AHAHAHAHA XD
janet park said:
holy crap, gee just keeps coming out randomly after the nine consecutive times
That picture is Huge >.<"
OMG SNSD totally pwns! lol
the girls are awesome like that..
SNSD Fighting !!!
jade soshi said:
SNSD JJANG… really love them
OMGOSH, Gee OWNED
I go East
I go West
So Nyeo Shi Dae is still the best!!!!!!!!!
to put it simply, SNSD has the most K-charts win in the history of Music Bank (21 to be exact). their first win was for “Kissing You!” which was kind of a fortunate accident after experiencing a real car accident while heading to the MuBank venue. let’s make another history and win this week’s MuBank and every week’s charts!
wow has snsd truly replaced WG?
Wow, the first chart makes everything TL:DR.
Okay, in a all seriousness, I’m glad that sillis7noy2 summarised and wrote out a(n) [Somewhat?] accurate explanation to how these charts work. Now, we’re able to understand how similiar charts like this work in the future for forthcoming programs.
On a lighter note: In the words of a gamer, SNSD just ‘PWNED’ everything in the lobby, lol.
That’s how good our girls are! 😀
I hope the girls win with HOOT! this week. 🙂
Is that a mistake in the Bugs weekly bit? 5 days at 1st place and 2 at 2nd can’t make 6th overall, surely
SOSHI + SONE ALL THE WAYYY!!
Nice Job for SNSD I think the only reason big bang didn’t have much was they left for japan so they could do their japan activities there so that’s why they have like nothing over to the two years. Other than that the other artist after big bang didn’t do very well… But still Congrats SNSD
anyone here heard of 2am fans strategy to beat snsd next week?
yes! SNSD FIGHTING!!!
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Belen Ladion said:
honestly just look gee viewer’s now in you tube,,,,,even though they release many song but gee is so high ranking…….
b-coz many people and sone continue support snsd not just for their music,,,,mainly b-coz of their style and personalitie’s
even though 2007 and 2008 is a tough year of snsd where heartless people say blah blah>>> they keep fighting
top 1 in the long run….snsd fightinnnnnnggggg!!!!
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