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Heh, you’d think that the MILK club that everyone’s talking about lately would be called Made In Lonely Kin instead, so it’d make more sense. Well, at least we know that Tiffany, Jessica, and Stephanie of CSJH hasn’t joined yet…?
Forgive me if I’m taking all of this lightly, but I honestly don’t know what to feel about this. But as an SNSD fan blog, it’s still our duty to update and share all things SNSD, even if we don’t want to. So because I don’t really feel like putting much effort in such a controversial (for a lack of a better word) topic, I’ll just copy and paste a conversation I had with a fellow Kpop lover and frequenter to SNSDKOREAN. And also, sorry if you think we’re not doing our job by reporting this to you earlier >.> the staffie that said she was gonna do the first part of this post hasn’t gotten in contact with me yet and I don’t want to take over if she already said she was gonna do it. Either way, I’m pretty sure most of you are informed already so I’m gonna go ahead and post this.
Warning: Please read everything that we’re saying. We’re really not trying to think of this in a lightly manner, but we’re thinking about it logically and from different point of views. We’re not heartless, so don’t think we are. Hmm, maybe we’re skeptics? Either way, we’re both fans of SM Entertainment and we love these people and only wish for the best. But we’d hate to waste our time feeling sorry for people who don’t need it. Also, as someone who’s worked around the Kpop industry for quite some time, it’s hard not to feel this way. And so, this is how we view this current SM topic.
Black Velvet(00:14:21): There’s a milk club update. =O
Me (00:14:32): where?
Me (00:14:51): whatever, i don’t feel like doing it, i got other things to post. what is it saying?
Black Velvet(00:14:52): It’s really, really short.
Black Velvet(00:14:55): An update on the Milk Club
A recent diary entry on Leeteuk’s Cyworld
[LEETEUK] Diary
Posted as 2009.07.27 Written on 2009.07.28 at 05:46 AM
…I think that sooner or later the Milk Fam is going to hold regular meetings…in a really quiet place with nice scenery…
Black Velvet(00:14:58): I just saw it here.
Black Velvet(00:15:08): I wouldn’t bother. Let her deal with it.
Me (00:15:32): i just hate it when news gets old.
Me (00:15:59): i don’t know how to take this.
Black Velvet(00:16:12): Haha, true.
Black Velvet(00:16:15): It’s kind of… odd?
Me (00:16:19): either as super emo and attention whoring or it’s a good thing that they all want to chill and relax together
Me (00:16:24): very mixed on this.
Black Velvet(00:16:28): I mean, posting about it like, “Oh, we’re going to meet and talk over tea,” or something.
Black Velvet(00:16:42): Yeah, same here.
Black Velvet(00:16:53): Maybe he’s on drugs…
Me (00:16:57): yeah, like we know you’re depressed… but don’t update us on more depressing stuff
Me (00:17:18): no, i think he’s just being emo and annoying. sorry 😡 but lonelies like attention
Black Velvet(00:17:45): Basically.
Black Velvet(00:17:54): People who are actually depressed do NOT tell people.
Me (00:17:58): yeah
Me (00:18:14): i think because of him, people are taking this the wrong way
Black Velvet(00:18:17): They keep it to themselves, as sad as it is. But, they’re usually the ones that succeed in hurting themselves.
Black Velvet(00:18:24): Agreed.
Me (00:18:25): maybe it’s not as bad as we’re imagining
Me (00:18:32): shit, now i want to write about this T_T cuz you got me going.
Black Velvet(00:18:39): Maybe not, but I most certainly hope he isn’t joking about it.
Black Velvet(00:18:42): xDD
Black Velvet(00:18:46): Whooooops.
Me (00:18:53): seriously. who makes a groups of depressed people?
Black Velvet(00:18:58): Just post this convo..
Me (00:19:00): unless you really are trying to help each other out.
Black Velvet(00:19:15): Good question. And, none of the other mentioned members have said anything about it.
Me (00:19:25): lol no, it might make us look too harsh, esp to those fans who don’t like to look at things from another perspective or think about situations logically.
Black Velvet(00:19:28): Not saying it’s a bad thing for them, since SM is close, but yeah.
Black Velvet(00:19:35): Haha, true.
Black Velvet(00:19:39): Very true.
Me (00:20:05): people might start saying i’m not a true SNSD fan or i’m harsh or something
Black Velvet(00:20:12): Yeah…
Me (00:20:13): and people who know i’m not the biggest SuJu fan are just gonna point that out.
Black Velvet(00:20:45): But, we don’t know the situation and neither do they. We’re just playing on this as, “Yes, they’re humans, but we’re also looking at this from a human standpoint,” you know?
Black Velvet(00:20:51): LOL, true. -_-
Me (00:21:11): if they are for serious, i REALLY hope they get better. if they aren’t, and just doing this for attention… or like trying to MAKE themselves depressed for attention, then i really hope they quit it.
Me (00:21:56): as much as i love DBSK and snsd, i really hope it’s not for attention. but then again, they look more depressed than Leeteuk seems, doing this kind of thing.
Black Velvet(00:21:59): Agreed.
Me (00:22:06): and boa’s depression was pretty much evident over the years.
Black Velvet(00:22:22): I can’t say the work load helps, so I agree that it’s bound to take place.
Black Velvet(00:22:27): No one is happy 24/7
Me (00:22:33): yeah, especially when you’re overworked
Me (00:22:43): i just hope nothing drastic happens.
Black Velvet(00:23:24): I don’t think anything will.
Me (00:23:26): like no one hurts themselves or wants to leave SM or their group….. or gets really ill.
Me (00:23:53): well if Leeteuk is just feeding the fire with more flame just to see it grow, then i don’t think anything will happen.
Black Velvet(00:24:13): That would be bad, but even the Korean fans are making light of this.
Black Velvet(00:24:27): I think it’s sad that they view depression as something like this, but meh.
Me (00:24:31): are they? cuz i haven’t been reading around to be honest.
Me (00:24:40): as what?
Black Velvet(00:24:42): Apparently not, according to some of the comments.
Black Velvet(00:25:14): That it’s like, “We can make a club for depressed people,” and make it a semi-joke when there are suicides all over Korea.
Black Velvet(00:25:20): Scratch that, the world.
Me (00:26:40): yeah and it just so happens that Korea is no.2 to japan in the world’s suicide rate.
Me (00:27:08): but it wouldn’t surprise me if Korea has the no.1 suicide rate for celebrities cuz Jesus, even when i first got into Kpop, there were already suicides.
Black Velvet(00:27:09): I mean, I want to laugh at this, thinking it’s funny for them to meet up and be emo kids, but there could be someone else in SM who’s ACTUALLY super depressed and will get hurt. (Or someone outside the company…)
Me (00:27:24): exactly. that’s why i’m getting mixed feelings about this.
Black Velvet(00:27:26): True, which is very sad.
Me (00:27:29): i almost want to ignore it LOL
Black Velvet(00:27:31): Right. Same here.
Black Velvet(00:27:39): Haha, maybe we should?
Me (00:28:05): that’s why i sorta felt bad for laughing at Onew in the first update. because i didn’t know whether or not to take this whole thing seriously. and then considering what happened to onew…
Me (00:28:11): maybe.
Me (00:29:00): hmm i don’t know how i’m gonna write this update on the milk club if we haven’t even published the first one.
Black Velvet(00:29:31): http://i25.tinypic.com/2agkgef.jpg
Black Velvet(00:29:35): LOL, okay, that is funny…
Black Velvet(00:29:56): We could just take this as an attention whore stance, even if that makes people hate you.
Black Velvet(00:30:00): Actually, just let people interpret it.
Me (00:30:17): LMFAO omg… and it couldn’t be more perfect. however, i wonder if anyone who isn’t familiar with psychoanalyzing Whinnie the Pooh would get the joke.
Me (00:46:51): ok i finished the Naennmyun update and put in some JeNy flavor of course. now it’s time to post the milk update.
Me (00:47:21): What does MILK stand for agian?
Black Velvet (00:51:32): Ummm
Me (00:51:37): i got it
Black Velvet (00:51:45): Haha, okay.
Black Velvet (00:51:54): I was about to say, there’s a Korean meaning for it…
Me (00:52:00): it stands for something silly. so at least we know Jess and Tiff haven’t joined.
Black Velvet (00:52:19): Nah, they’re too busy with the Gay League anyway…
Me (00:52:22): but why would they? they take their stress out on each other. 😀
Me (00:52:24): LOL!!!!
P.S. Don’t mind the time… I’m scheduling this to post later on in the day when it’s not midnight… haha
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mhmm i see…. alright. i’ll start working on posts but i dont feel like posting on this too so i’ll let whoever 😛 said they would post about this do it 😀
i’m seriously thinking that this is just them being emo. all kpop stars are overworked, especially SM stars, without much compensation in return– so it’s bound to get you down. they’re always having to give more than getting to receive..
but at least they’re banding together and helping each other out right??
i feel like it’s a slightly different situation for boa because well, she’s a solo artist and there really isn’t anyone else going through the situation WITH her. sure, she’s got her coordis, managers, dancers, etc… but she didn’t have a group of bandmates to share the ups &downs of stardom with. hence, i took her case a lot more seriously (?)
but suju, soshi, and dbsk at the LEAST have each other to depend on when times get rough. and the respective group members ALL know & understand what the others’ are going through because they ALL have to go through it. (i guess besides during solo activities).
so yea, i’m gonna remain lighthearted on this topic.
besides, that pic of leeteuk is just plain ridiculous XDDDDD
LOL that’s what i love ya unni, we see things the same way!
But yeah, I felt more worried about BoA. Plus, her’s was more evident. I just blamed those sad looks on SNSD and DBSK’s faces because they were sick all the time, but never mentioned depression. BoA flat out said she was depressed after her depression point. So her story seems a lot more believable and she does seem much more lonely. And she could never confide in the rest of SM because she’s never in Korea for more than a few days :T
Whatever, if the idols really are feeling lonely and down under, I just hope they realize there are people around them that can help them get better. No one is alone!
-sLaVe
yup yup yup you’re like a sista from anotha motha XD
i do hope that surely if something was seriously wrong, that these idols will be directed to the right place.
for some reason, even though boa admitted she was feeling depressed, it seemed like SM kinda ignored(?) her.
i mean, the girl mentions feeling depressed and then right away, they ship her off to the US.
i for one know that when i’m feeling a little down, it does feel better to have something to do– but overworking one’s self could make the situation worse.
but of all the companies, SM TOWN looks and feels like a real family. so i think they’re all gonna be ok ^^
hahah seriously xD
Well, if it’s not THAT bad yet, I suggest they just give them some rest. Or take them somewhere nice for a few days. But hey, when everyone wants you, I guess it’s pretty impossible.
Heh, I wonder about that. Supposedly she said it made her happier and refreshed. I don’t know about BoA sometimes. she’s very hard to read. But she looks happier now, which is weird.
-sLaVe
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From the prospective of someone who loves psychology enough to take this seriously, I accept your point of view. However, I do think Teukie is a depression-prone person. I do think he’s the type of person to get depression easily. Plus, he’s appears to be the type of person who gets lonely regardless of how many people are around him. I TRULY identify with him entirely.
Now, from the Point of View of a SuJu fan, I find your post somewhat offensive. I know Teukie’s an attention-whore, so he does things that are silly and ridiculous & end up making himelf look stupid. Those are things I’ve learned to ignore, as much as they bother me. I do it becasue I identify with him. I really REALLY don’t think that the whole MILK Club thing is an attention seeking strategy. I (like to) think that I’m able to see through him when he’s trying to get attention. This ‘project’ really sounds… sincere to me.
I don’t know, but I really believe in him.
I don’t know a whole lot about SNSD, so I’m not even going to bother talking about them. All I’m going to ask is for you to take things seriously and respectfully.
Peace. ❤
It’s no surprise to me that you feel this way, I completely understand. I think if the tables were reversed, I’d probably think the same. I don’t completely know how to express what I REALLY feel about this. I mean, yes, I’m worried about them because they are just so overworked. However, depressed people don’t really talk about how depressed they are, do they? At least that’s what I learned.
I don’t know. I’m worried, but I don’t want to be worried. I think that’s what I’m trying to say.
And because I don’t want to be worried, I don’t want to take this seriously. Plus, I have more faith in each one of them to get better, if there’s anything to get better about, because they have their bandmates and friends. And as stressful as work can be, they really look like they can be having fun.
Also, in case you were wondering, I don’t HATE SuJu. I’m absolutely not an anti. I actually own one of their albums and like a few of their members. They’re just not one of my favorite groups.
-sLaVe
In this piece, I believe that something has been lost in translation. The “members” of this club are either leaders or members who were dedicated to other strenuous outside activities that might have hindered their health in some form or another. So, I think he’s pointing out that they have a lot of work on their shoulders.
I won’t disagree that idols have a difficult lifestyle and that depression is an issue to not to be made light of (especially with suicide on such a high), but that is the case I’m seeing here. If he’s really making a serious joke out of this, I think it’s very twisted and in poor taste. If he wanted people to understand the seriousness of what he and others in the company had to go through, he could have said it in a different manner, and I would have felt like he deserved my sympathy, but putting it this way, I feel like he doesn’t.
And, I’m not saying this from being “butthurt,” because I don’t hate anyone in SuJu, and in fact, would have the same feelings if one of the girls had posted something like this (or if they even acknowledge this whole thing eventually). That being said, I will apologize if our conversation seemed brash and rude, but that was just my first interpretation of what was going on, and I’ll while the feelings have toned down somewhat, it remains my final interpretation.