As you may know, the girls’ recently held a very successful Into the New World concert in Taiwan, completely selling out and filling the stadium with pink. Following that however, the Taiwanese Media had shifted their focus onto the few lipsynced performances present, rather than the fact that a mysterious Korean girl group broke a record for foreign artists. Unfortunately, that’s not where the Taiwanese media stops with their accusations about snsd.
In a very recent episode of a Taiwanese talk show called ‘Fate is Really Fun/Play with Fate‘ (命運好好玩) on Super Lucky TV, a session was held where they talked about the Korean entertainment industry. It wasn’t about the k-wave hitting Asia, but instead, talked about plastic surgery and sexual favors as requirements for artists to be successful. An image of girls’ generation with the caption ‘sexual favors’ was used on the show’s broadcast. (I’m not sure if they mentioned the girls specifically, but it was certainly implied).
SM Entertainment responded strongly, stating that the program presented exaggerated and false information; appropriate action will be taken against the show for defamation of the girls’ image. It was also noted that Samsung Taiwan launched an inquiry to the television station, as SNSD is their model for many products.
Super Junior’s Ryeowook also showed his disgust on the topic via twitter:
Wow, that lady talks so confidently when she can’t even distinguish between crap and bean paste (this is a popular korean saying, btw, basically means she doesn’t know enough to tell things apart). It even makes the male me feel more offended. Tsktsk.
-translation by yunhalove@livejournal
I love Taiwan – the sights, the culture, the food.. the list goes on. But in a time where the media makes money off of dirt rather than news, it seems that Taiwan’s got it worse than Korea. (although news everywhere seems to be going in this direction regardless.. this was pretty bad). We weren’t sure if we should give this topic attention on the blog, but felt that sones should be able to protect soshi from the misinformed. I guess situations like these are a price that comes with popularity, but making such allegations towards the girls is lower than Sunny’s height… without insoles. I’m glad both SME and Samsung are taking action against the show, and I hope that other media outlets become aware of the consequences of messing with the divine nine.
The true loss here won’t be the legal reparations from a lawsuit, the advertising revenue from Samsung pulling ads, nor the criticism the show will surely receive from Taiwanese sones; the loss simply lies in the fact that individuals may miss out on the girl group known as So Nyuh Shi Dae because of such reports by the media.
Right now it’s Girls’ Generation. From now on it’s Girls’ Generation. Forever it’s Girls’ Generation.
//I don’t mean to bash all of Taiwanese media, and realize there are exceptions. This may be one of the extreme ones in the other direction, but again, this is not the first incident with regards to their media and SNSD. I also know that Taiwan isn’t the only place with these problems, but I will say that this was pretty low. I guess I’ll also mention that I’ve got a bit of Taiwanese blood in me. =P However, I am ready for any criticisms of what probably turned out to be my semi-biased writing.
edit: Title changed based on feedback~
i watched the broadcast, they were talking about the entertainment industry in general, so they did not mention SNSD specifically. But the fact that SNSD’s picture was used was bad enough….. ohh,,, that made me so mad….
WTF taiwanese media? that’s low.
I think you are being a little bit biased because the Korean media does this alot too. Just because one Taiwanese talk show did this, doesn’t mean the whole taiwanese media is like that. There are a lot other talks especially in Korea and Japan that do this.
P.S i’m not even Taiwanese.
yes, i am well aware of the Korean and asian media in general, and I’ve hinted at them in the post as well. However, while controversial, I’m not sure if they would go this low. I do agree, that I probably was generalizing a bit, but as also mentioned above, the Taiwanese media has also made other accusations against the girls, and this show was not the first.
Following ITNW, Taiwan’s 4 largest SNSD fanclubs have made their stance with regards to their media:
perhaps i overreacted, but I will stand by what I wrote.
PS – I on the otherhand, am part Taiwanese to a small degree.
“I hope that other media outlets become aware of the consequences of messing with the divine nine.”
Just try messing up with our girls,
and look what’s going to happen..
I and i believe, all SONEs in all over the world will not sit and watch our girls treated like that..
I was shocked when this news came out,
how dare they use our girl’s picture, and implying they do what they are saying..
Such a disgrace you Play with Fate people..
Right now, from now on, and forever, It’s Girls’ Generation!!
Xavier Tseng said:
I’m sone from Taiwan, actually I haven’t watched TW shows and news for a long time.
Cuz those things are crap… Not to exaggerate.
Eventhough I’m a Taiwanese, i hate those shows and news myself. Because of this low quality shows, news and journalists not only humiliate girls, but also greatly slapped we TW sones in the face…
We feel really bad for those medias, and also feel shameful towards our media.
Once again, I would like to apologize to girls and sones who were offended by TW medias.
I felt really sorry about it….sincerely sorry…
I am very thankful for Taiwanese SONEs.
Please continue to support and defend the girls, we trust you. ❤
i already talked about this on another site and i just wanna say that in fact yes this does happen in the industry but not just korea but everywhere. it was good that this was brought to light BUT USING SNSD PICTURE WAS RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT IT. I am glad that SM and Samsung are taking action on this matter. Am not going to bash this TV Station because i know they don’t represent Taiwan as a whole. but in geberal the Taiwan Media as not really been leaving me with a good impression ever since the into the new world concert. i hope that Taiwan’s broardcasting Stations and Media can learn to do research before putting it out there with not knowing whats going on if not their going to run it to some serious trouble one day. And as for the lady i heard she is very unliked with in the Tawian entertainment industry its a shame that she has to go through these measures in order to gian attention from people. Just one more thing THE VERY FACT THAT SUNNY IS LSM NEICE PUTS SNSD WAY!!!! DOWN ON THAT LIST. I highly doubt the LSM although is not CEO anymore is still very much involved in SM Bussiness affiars would allow something to happen to Sunny and she would never let anything like that happen to the rest of the girls.
all i can say is what they talked about on the show was totally messed up….defaming the girls’ image. they really don’t know what goes on and to talk without evidence is really ridiculous.
Comeon greeentea….I love SNSD as much as anyone else around here but to put this kind of message is something else. Taiwan has one of the freest freedom of press and media in Asia and with that freedom, comes these kind of yellow press. Web journalists such as yourself should have enough integrity to avoid blanketed statements such as “Taiwanese Media should…”
Should some individuals miss out of the group simply because they were easily influenced by these yellow journalism, as you suggested, then I really have to question their cognitive abilities to determine right from wrong. We, as strong supporters of SNSD should raise above these and spread their talent with honor.
Just an FYI, I live in the US so I get bombarded with tons of these kind of talk show / editorials from all sides. Success is only achieved when one can make their own decision by themselves and not simply be a peon and follow whoever is the loudest.
Web journalist is giving me too much praise, i’m just a kid. ^^
I hate to generalize, but this wasn’t the first incident. Is it wrong to be asking for at the very least, honest topics? Yes, there are many countries with free press.. but what people do with it will certainly reflect upon their image as a media. Free press can still be done without baseless accusations, yes? The T-media also reported that sones were the ones that caused chaos at the airport when soshi arrived in Taiwan, when it was actually the reverse. There was certainly more than one station present during the mess, sones were being very respectful.
While ideally we should all be able to tell what’s real and not, we know that’s not always the case and people allow the media to tell us what to think. As an American then, I’m sure you’re aware of the various manipulations created by Faux news. It would be a lie to say that they don’t have any influence on public opinion.
Also, please see 4 comments above yours.
Totally agree with greeentea. I love snsd and I dont like how that show used the girls pic ans “sexual favors” together
Rumors…How rumors start? Frm the media like them… C’mon, no proof den js shut…if u guys has the prooof, den SHOW IT!!! Pictures? Plastic surgery? Pls lah… Before and after debut they look the SAME!!! S-A-M-E SAME!!!!! AKA NO PLASTIC SURGERY!!!!!!!!!
When I saw this article on Allkpop, I couldn’t help but…
Seriously though. Of course we can’t judge Taiwanese media just by this mere assumption alone, only the exceptions that do, especially this one. I’m writing from the stance that I take neither side, just to let you know I’m not one-sided.
Damn that talk show!!! No offense to the SONES in taiwan just come to SINGAPORE(SNSD/Girl’s) this kind of crap will never happen here. SNSD FOEVER!!!!!!!
Ow that pot shot a Sunny was low. ha ha get it? low.
I’m from Singapore and I support the girls WHOLEHEARTEDLY 😀 !!! Such media trash to increase broadcasting sales should be abhorred to the fullest 😦 !!! I’m glad the relevant people are taking action against this “smear” to the girls good names. SNSD Fighting 🙂 !!!
Topic seems a little strong for this blog. I wish they wouldn’t use SNSD as an example but I get why they did. Showing a picture of one of the most recognizable and successful/popular girl groups in Asia. While I feel it might hurt SNSD in some areas, I think it will blow over. What I wonder about is the story about how female entertainers are treated. I’ve read some pretty scary stories and while I want to believe that SNSD is protected by SME (Sunny’s the Founder’s niece) and not exposed to these terrible things, I’d still want someone to help them if any of it were true; rather than over looking it because “it cant happen to our girls.” The whole thing is just scary and a total bummer. 😦
it’s not often that we’ll report on things like these and usually just let them pass.. but if SME is ‘taking action’, then that’s a different story. we’re usually light-hearted in our writing, so this probably did come on as a bit stronger. just depends on the writer.. and in this case, I apologize haha.
Now I’m all worried. Going to listen to some music and then look for ways to support the girls even more.
I personally give greeentee all the “green light” to run with this article. But that’s just me, take it for what it’s worth as I am Chinese and I know of Taiwan’s media and the kind of junk they do. This is an SNSD blog, if you didn’t expect some SNSD bias you probably are browsing the wrong site fellas. Taiwanese media, in general, especially the sections and the reporters that cover entertainment news, are of very low quality. All news articles written about SNSD and Taiwanese SONEs, from the time they arrived to the time they left, were written in celebrity gossip (junk) style, with overgeneralized and overexaggerated punchlines and language. They report news almost the entire time without doing much research and understanding the facts.
Some of the news pieces they ran just makes you wanna punch the reporter in the face, and I’m not exagerating, they called all the Taiwanese male SONEs “Otakus” – losers with no life, “causing chaos and paralyzing airport traffic”, “waited all night for a lustful 3 minute view of the girls”, when SNSD left they reported the girls “made a bank and didn’t even work hard for it because they lip-sync”… if you saw a compilation of the news pieces after the concerts (I saw some on SNSDChina.net and unfortunately they’re not on Youtube and not subbed), it will make you MAD if you’re a SONE.
Apparently being a free press means they can report news without any integrity, the length that they go and the level of malice they put into their news pieces is a lot worse than media in Korea and Japan. Of course there are exceptions here and there so it’s probably not accurate to say all of Taiwan’s media is a joke, as an example they reported on the touching story of the boy that was killed in an accident a month prior to the concert and how his seat was left open in a symbolic move to allow him to watch the concert. Basically they like to run their news on extremes, with little middle ground and impartiality, more often than not, they like to keep their yellow ways, and they do this not only to foreign celebrities but also their own celebrities, because their goal is to ride the wave of anything that garners popularity and attention and write whatever it takes to sell the news and make money. I don’t know about you, but a media that’s focused on just doing that is not a high quality one, and they don’t deserve to be protected, only condemned.
James Lin said:
Try all media.. doesn’t matter which country, there’s always some media channel that loves to exaggerate things or misrepresent things to get ratings. There’s always lawsuits and actions that these companies should use to counter these media influences.
However, the sexual favors.. well.. that goes with entertainment industry in general.. doesn’t matter what country, what entertainment, period. As long as the involvement is above 18 years of age, and not related to religion, family, crime, I don’t think there’s much we can do to stop them. 😦
Last but not least, they should absolutely apologize for using SNSD’s image to portray the sexual corruption among entertainment industry, unless, they have solid proof that SNSD was one of them.
@mercypointy Freedom vs. responsibility? This “yellow press” may be expected but it is still undesirable – you store grain in a silo, you’ll get rats that eat it, but you should still try to keep them from doing so. The freedom to do or say anything you want is ultimately an empty freedom, an anarchy where the “peons follow whoever is the loudest.”
By the way, as a fellow American I feel I should remind you that “yellow” is also the color attributed to the (East) Asian peoples. I hope you at least take a dim view of using “black” to symbolize evil and “white” to symbolize good, and would encourage you take the same attitude towards the use of “yellow” when referencing poor journalism (or to mean “cowardly”).
As I see it, greeentee didn’t even need the disclaimer at the end – but in the end, greeentee still did say at least “(not) all of[sic] Taiwanese media.” “Taiwanese media should stop televising fabrications unnecessarily” may be a futile call but two different sources have, in a relatively short period, aired lazy journalism. Thus “media” is appropriate at least as far as more than one source is being addressed. Also, my understanding of blogs is that they ought to be understood as a private citizen’s mouthpiece and not actual journalism – though I will allow, that it is a grey area, (even now) not yet fully defined. But thus, where greeentee makes generalized statements like “Taiwanese media should…” and states personal opinions like “Taiwan’s got it worse than Korea” and claims that “there are exceptions” – implying that the majority of Taiwanese press is of a low standard – in my view one ought to understand it as greeentee’s own words and not as information presented as journalism (and thus not subject to its standards). To use an analogy, SNSDKorean is to me a collection of editorials rather than news articles. Therefore if you feel that one should avoid blanket statements in general (and I would as well), then do so – but that is not a question of journalistic integrity. Even so, most of the editorializing was limited to the last two paragraphs (and the title).
With regards this show that tempts fate, I think that it may be understood as tabloid entertainment, but it doesn’t seem to be akin to TMZ but more the National Enquirer – the former may clash with privacy issues but as I understand it does not fabricate material, and the latter, quite frankly deserves to get swatted when it crosses the line (as has happened). As for that other show with the lip-syncing thing, if memory serves it was less a fabrication than uneven reporting (on a news show, if memory serves), which is still something we should discourage.
You have brought someone’s honor and integrity into question, and so I have treated this with more gravity than I may have otherwise. I hope you understand it as a sign of respect that I have taken your comments seriously.
greeentee, that insoles joke was cute.
That is the beauty of freedom of speech and press. You can focus on something dear and near to you while I can also. I, as a new SNSD fan take this site as my primary source of SNSD news. I would lightheartedly bet that a lot of individual does the same. In addition, since this is not a forum type but instead a blog style, I would say that people who have the power to create post holds a greater power.
In my comment, I was simply stating that thus site should be held to a more higher level. Was greeentea right? Of course, but as a reader of this wonderful site, it really turns me off when I read headings like this. What is next? Target all the antis out there? Please, I would much rather read about how off the chart the girls have been then a targeted attack to a show by some misguided show host.
If that was all you said, I’d have left you to your opinions and not bothered responding to you in particular.
A person of honor does not lightly question the integrity of another.
I have no interest in Antis. But unlike antis, I would at least expect some level of fairness in media. (bad expectations, but not too unreasonable). Controversial? Scandalous? That’s fine. I’ll accept that. But this was ridiculous.
You were probably right in that I may have went a bit lower myself, but I don’t believe I went too out of line in my criticisms, nor did I make any personal remarks against the host and the particular guest celebrity, whose names I did not include in my post at all (despite these being easily found on all other articles on the web). Had I not included my personal take below the ryeowook quote, I would like to think that the post would’ve been a pretty neutral one.
As a reader then, you’ve probably noticed that we usually don’t give this kind of stuff much attention, and that’s generally how it is. Of the 3500 posts on this blog, 99% will have ‘enjoyable’ content (as one way to put it). This time however, it was a bit on the extreme end, and we felt that sones should probably know, given that both SME and Samsung are taking action. You may or may not have noticed that we were/I was a bit hesitant about writing this post as well, given the 2 day delay from when it was noted on other websites. I could’ve also written another joke post about Taiwanese media instead, but those take a lot of work and I don’t think it would be appropriate for this situation. (Readers may also kill me if they read 3 of those in a short period of time).
While you may not agree with them, I hope you understand my reasoning and hopefully I have not personally offended you in any way with my responses. It takes a lot to comment, knowing that you’ll probably be in a one-sided argument (given the situation) with myself and/or other readers, and I respect that. We welcome the comments and don’t do much censoring, please continue to support us. ^^
You’re right, this site isn’t the best place to disect how ugly the Taiwanese media is. But you can’t fault a SONE for wanting to defend the girls, especially over a serious topic relating to the reputation and character of the band. The staff of SNSDKorean are a very passionate and devoted group of people (I *almost* met greeentee in real life when we went to SMTown LA), and I’m sure they’d love to write wonderful news and post pretty pictures/videos of the girls all the time, and as a SONE I’d love to spazz and focus on the positives all the time too.
Unfortunately things aren’t perfect like that, the girls of SNSD aren’t perfect human beings living in a world with perfect media coverage. I know the staff here don’t like posting controversial topics and they never focus on the antis. But once in an while you’ll see a bad apple like this talk show that die hard SONEs just cannot ignore, though I agree the title of this article could have been better, but I feel that it’s okay to cover the negative news from time to time. Because it’s better take a stand as a fansite than to stay ignorant and pretend it didn’t happen. As a side note, it’s surprising to see one of least outspoken members of SuJu, Ryeowook, making a strong statement like that, just goes to show you how shocking and potentially defaming this news is.
not an Anti i swear to god said:
well first off, im a pretty big snsd fan. About the talk shows i mean, talk shows are talk shows, they talk bout pretty much w/e they want, and it slowly leads to other things. I mean in america everyone is talkin bout this celeb doin this and this celeb doing that. I dont think they were saying tat snsd did antying seuxal to get popular, but ther was this girl from china who was forced to perform sexual pleasure inorder to get into the korean music industry, i dun thnk they were exactly happy to hear tat, just because they were chinese they have less of a chance if they dun do sexual acts? i mean come on isnt tat discrimination?
Well of course talk show is talk show and that they have their own right to talk about whatever they want to. Even if they did not specifically say that our girls did that, the fact that they are accusing other artists and using our girls’ pictures are not something that should be let off so easily. They just tarnished the name of the entire korean entertainment industry and insulted hundreds of idols. They really should watch what they say, and guess what giving sexual favor is the easier way. Nobody forces you to give sexual favors unless you are in life or death situation, if they really wanted to succeed then they can do it by hard work and earn their supporters. And people who ask for the sexual favors should just go and die in HELL.
‘The only winning move is not to play’
WOPR, from the 1983 film: ‘Wargames.
I have my own opinion as a SONE and as a bystander who has multiple views on other unrelated subjects, not just SNSD, K-pop or even how the media runs things.
My view is somewhat similiar to RagingXL’s and some others on here. But honestly, I think that such arguments/debates/conversations/flame-wars/srslywtf is meaningless, but I do have to acknowledge that defamatory remarks against any party, not just SNSD, is wrong. However, I won’t stop any of you from stating your own opinions on the matter by reinforcing my opinions with corroborating evidence.
Yes, perhaps that anybody who may have not heard of SNSD(Must be literally living under a rock OR lives in rural settlements) or even how the media is run may be influenced by the prejudiced remarks of this one particular Taiwanese show, and may have a pessimistic outlook as a first impression on not just SNSD, but K-pop, but it’s our duty as SONES to correctly inform the misinformed WITHOUT the biased opinions or predilections while taking the necessary action against those who vilify/defame SNSD or any other similiar party.
I’m saying this because I can tell the wrong between parties, not just antis’ who hate our ladies for the wrong reasons, but also the SONES, sometimes ‘SOME’ of you can take things too far with certain actions and biased opinions.
Note: The aforementioned statement above is targeting only the ‘Proven Exception’, I’m not saying everyone is bad, only the exceptions.
‘Sometimes, it’s best to do what feels right instead of what is logical’.
Old Spock, to Young Spock, from the 2009 film: Star Trek.
tasteless taiwan crap..
SNSD 100% fan! said:
Sometimes taiwanese media or variety has nothing better to do!! But our girls is strong!
Pardon the double post, I nearly forget to add this in.
I try my extreme best to sound considerate, but adding to what Mercypointy said, I rarely ever get turned off by reading headers like this, but after analysing this post a little, ‘A Little Bit’ of what is mentioned on the post here is identical to what ‘Some’ SONES(actually, not just SONES, but other fans of different groups as well) do whenever their favourite idols or groups are being bashed, vilified or defamed by a certain source, particulary the media.
That is, utilizing their ‘Somewhat-Biased-Or-Accurate-And-Informative’ opinions, retaliate in response to what the source(Fate is Really Fun/Play with Fate) exaggerates. However, the source(Taiwanese Media), unfortunately, will dismiss whatever we, on the internet, say in response to their exaggerations. It’s because of this ‘LALALA I WON’T LISTEN AND I’M RIGHT, YOU’RE WRONG LALALA’ creationist attitude from the media that just escalates into a meaningless fight.
I think that it’s best that a respectable ‘Parent’ AKA SM Entertainment should address the matter along with other cohorts and the ‘accurate-not-biased’ retorts of fans. Because from what I’ve learned, I don’t know how to put in simpler terms, but…
‘A teacher(Taiwanese Media) will not address the matter with the student(SNSD and the fans) because they’re not of a higher stance or responsibility than when compared to the parent of the student(SM Entertainment)’.
As such, like me, it’s best to just let the authorities handle the matter than we as of lower stance(Not saying I am, neither you nor me) and just let it go. Because that’s how things are run in real life, unfortunate, but a fact of life.
‘Forgive your enemies, but remember their names’.
I agree with most of what you said, and I don’t think that fans have that big of an influence either in Taiwan. But regardless, I think it’s important for us to continue to voice our biased and/or accurate opinions, because the parent listens. I personally also think that this whole thing will blow over in a few days anyways, but awareness, rather than action, is key.
WTH with that…huhu im sure this media dont have anything better to do…but it ok sone will always protect you girls…..fighting…..be strong…
I don’t question the integrity but the judgement. As an example, see how this post provoke some generalization and negative view toward Taiwanese media? Regardless if it is desired, it is surfacing.
Greentee is absolutely right… Media should be fair in all.. or the show in Taiwan just want to be popular, but sadly they can’t be as popular as the Girls..
this kind of wrong info will not be tolerated by the SONES around the World.. naming The Girls with that are they looking for a …
i think an army of SONES vs Taiwan Media T_T.. WTF.. Low Blow..
i know Taiwan SONES would not let this through..
(showing my opinion),,
I REALLY LOVE THE GIRLS…
THE SONES ARE PROTECTING THE GIRLS NO MATTER WHAT…
SNSD always ,, Girls Generation Forever ♥♥♥ ^___^
I don’t see the problem of most readers…”Not the place for this?”, this is the most visited international SNSD site (yes it ranks higher than SSF, google “snsd”). Do you guys expect to only read positive stuff regarding the girls? That would be kind of ignorant. Actually I am quite happy that this subject has been addressed, seeing that there also has been controversial stuff that was ignored.
Greenteee “Lowering” himself? He has stated the facts and stated that this was HIS opinion about four times. This isn’t the first time Taiwanese media has done this and indeed it’s very low of them. He should have addressed this and he did it in a mature way.
What more do you guys expect?
One more thing: talk about being hypocritical. The criticism I see here is that the news has “freedom of speech/writing/reporting”. Doesn’t this blog have that as well? There is still one major difference: this blog and this writer states facts in this post whereas the Taiwanese media just implies stuff.
Nice post GT, keep it up!
Thanks renoo, but soshified is still the #1 international site. ❤
For whatever reason, we just happen to rank higher in google because we match more terms in their search I think (along with reasonable traffic). SSF is still alexa ranked much higher for their traffic, page views, time spent on website, etc~
i agree to most sones’ opinions regarding this..i accepted the reality that those kinds of things about the show’s topic really happens all over around the world..what i don’t accept is using SNSD’s pic on the topic..that’s only really pisses me off..
what the?!go to hell taiwan! i’ll never go to taiwan.lets all sones boycott taiwan!
Wow, cool down man.It is the media that is not at fault.Not the country nor the people.As I said (and everyone knows) T-Sones are working their butt off to support and protect SNSD.Pay them some respect man.
I meant it is the media that is at fault.Sorry for the typo.
please don’t misunderstand, Taiwan is a great country, and T-sones are some of the most supportive fans in the world.
A media does not represent a country’s views, but it certainly has the ability to influence them.
Well done GT. I love your take on this issue. You started with cold hard facts before stating your stance towards this matter. I think that’s very fair of you and I support that you stand by what you wrote.
My own 2 cents on this issue is that freedom of speech is not a freedom to defame.In fact by law, defamation is an act of crime and this particular show is the main perpetrator of this crime, which SONE and SM took seriously. Of course the station must also shoulder the blame for letting such show to air. Obviously, part of the blame goes to the general Taiwan media as the umbrella of this show.Ok, I agree that we do not generalise a group of people but the facts are:
1. This TV show is a part of the Taiwan media, as are the newspaper/magazine who talks about plastic surgery and lip-synching.
2. Being parts of the media, the entities (TV show,newspaper,magazine) mentioned above have partake in the culture of that media.
3. Within that media culture, broadcasting incomplete, inaccurate, exaggerated and false news is considered norm in the name of freedom of press.
Of course changing a culture of the media is a big thing and will not happen overnight and blaming the whole media for this few debacles is excessive, but this large and general entity called ‘Taiwan Media’ cannot escape the dirt caused by its smaller parts. If any person by any chance are a supporter/admirer/observer of Taiwanese Media, his/her discontentment should not be aimed at GT for putting blanket tag on Taiwan Media, but rather to the small entities whose action is a disgrace to Taiwanese Media as a whole.
Last but not least, I’d like to highlight the seriousness of what this people in TV show has done:
1. They generalise KPop environment due to some of their unfortunate artist who had a bad experience there. I agree that they might have some sad tales back in Korea, but their action is more sensation seeking rather than solving the problem.They could have report to police, hire a lawyer to sue the shady agency or if they want to do it through the press: name and shame that agency in both Korean and Taiwanese press. Instead they are doing it in a talk show where things are easily blown out of proportion and misunderstood by many.
2. The extent of generalisation by that TV show is worse than GT’s generalisation of T-Media since they incorporated the prominent part of Korean Entertainment which is SNSD in their accusation.Simple minds would easily conclude that SNSD have been forced to do sexual favour and so is every Korean artist since the biggest of them is doing that. If you are a KPOP lover, this is a grave insult.
3. Since as SM said it that the statement was false and it does tarnish the reputation of SNSD, then it is an act of defamation. While a crime is a crime, the nature of the perpetrator, situation and the victim does add to the weight of the crime. In this case the victims are members of SNSD, which we believe to be innocent, decent and professional and this defamation hurts big time.
So, any entities mentioned in my comment or in this site deserves every ounce of criticism coming their way and this particular TV show deserves that big fat lawsuit from SM
On positive notes though, I want to give my utmost salute to T-Sones who have done tremendously well in supporting and protecting our girls. T-Sones Hwaiting!!! SNSDKorean hwaiting!!!
I have no problem with greentee’s post.
I’m a rational adult and and can figure out on my own that greentee is only bashing the irresponsible portion of the Taiwanese media and not accusing the entire media community of Taiwan of being corrupt. And I can figure this out all on my own without other over the top PC people accusing others of making generalizations.
Good for you Ik2500 :). I agree totally with what you have written.
omg! that’s so stupid and irresponsible of that show to use the girls as an example! their point was already made by that girl who told her personal story on the show. they shouldn’t have used false examples.
Does anyone know that exact episode of the show? I wanna take a look.
Taiwan Sones are so great. I hope all the Sones around the world can do similar things, showing their loves through efforts and hard work, and show the girls that we will always be with them. At the same time, to show the world that the girls are not to be messed with.
2010/11/06 at 8:34 pm
I don’t question the integrity but the judgement. As an example, see how this post provoke some generalization and negative view toward Taiwanese media? Regardless if it is desired, it is surfacing.”
This post DOES NOT PROVOKE…, but the improper behaviours of SOME Taiwanese media DO
greeentee’s title and content is … not strong enough.
Boss Lady said:
This blog is here to serve your soshi addiction. Yes of course, what team of writers doesnt want to constantly report 100% all amazing and happy news? But when things like these come off, we have to address it. The team had to go through a little debate before going through with the post. We probably would not have gone through with this if SME or Samsung was not taking any action..but since they are, doesnt it show how serious the issues are?
I won’t even go into the titles issue/all the other problems that come up because our writer here was willing to hear commenters out and change it, which hey, shows a lot about him. This post has obviously turned into something more than just…the issue itself.
If anyone has true problems with this post being posted up, please come to me directly. I gave the go ahead, the green light.
And to comment on the real thing so I’m not trolling 🙂 Whether or not they directly used snsd’s name, jsut by showing their picture is bad enough. Glad to see SME and Samsung standing up for the girls and hopefully, this tv channel will have learned its lesson. I heard samsung pulled the plug on all their ads there (:
I understand Chinese and watched the whole thing. They were not talking about snsd in specific. They were talking about the Korean music industry in general. And the newspaper they were holding just so happened to have snsd on it because snsd is like number 1 (no doubt about that) and really hot (I dont mean hot hot but like popular hot, although they really are hot XD) so the newspaper has chose to use snsd to represent the k-pop industries. Although i really doubt some of the things they said were true.
I feel its a good idea to put up this article. Thumbs up to Boss Lady and Greeentee.
wow is this really that big of a deal? i guess im just not used to the culture cuz here
in america no one would giva s— lol
this isn’t the first time that the Taiwanese media/entertainment has criticize the girls since their successful 2 day concert in Taiwan. using SNSD as an example is a defamation of their character and image and just down right DUMB! the girls were far too young when they entered showbiz and never have a seen the girls nor their agency do anything provocative for this show to use as an example. if this is how the Taiwanese media sees our girls…then SM will definitely reconsider bringing back the girls in Taiwan. i feel bad for Taiwanese sones because at this rate these people bring about shame not just on themselves, but the whole country in itself :(.
Just a suggestion…use the name of the SHOW instead of saying their race. Alot of people are badhing on taiwanese people, when it has nothing to do with all of them. Stop generealizing people. The writer sounds a bit racst too :S
sorry but, one ‘sone’ calling another sone a racist doesn’t make sense to me at all…..
No worries, greeentee. It is our nature to generalize. And I am sure the so-called racism is not intended. Koreans and TW are Asians. So the “r” word doesn’t make sense. 🙂 But it’s true that not the entire TW is to be blamed. But all of us get the point: a downright brainless media from TW trying to push their viewer ratings by (unwisely) choosing our girls as the cover and stamping them with one of the world most defamatory statements one could ever conceive.
though unmentioned, it is not appropriate to use the girl’s images for this news. . . how nasty of them, file them a lawsuit. . . SNSD is natural no doubt about it, we see their development right from the start. Go SNSD! Go Girl’s Generation! Saranghae!
This piece of derogatory news was disseminated along with our mainstream press (Chinese) in Malaysia too. I am always keeping an eye on SNSD in the entertainment section. SNSD is rarely reported negatively until this came out. I was like “of all people, why SNSD? Just because they are popular or are they trying to allude something?!” As for the newspaper cut in this post, the first 3 Chinese characters “韩少女” (Korean girl) looks like “少女时代” (SNSD) when read at a quick glance since they share 2 same characters. And the last 5 characters “被逼性招待” (forced to perform sexual favours) are really an eye-sore. Then there comes the huge blown-up pic of of our girls.
@greeentee and everyone sone: Basically, I feel you guys. Having SNSD as the illustrative tool for the despicable label of “sexual favour” is outright wrong. It is not because it is SNSD (though it really IS because of SNSD for us sones :P), even putting other group’s photo is not right. Perhaps the reason SNSD is used is because SNSD is the representative of K-Pop. It is a good thing but when coupled with the nauseating false-claim, well, it’s “blasphemy” to our very much worshipped SNSD. However, it is a bit overwhelming to blame the entire TW media, since other media also commit such inhumane piece of work. The main target to blame is the irresponsible media players who abused the freedom of media bestowed to them.
Well, while we are waiting for SME and Samsung to take action, what we can do now is to think of it this way: huge fame comes with huge jealousy and huge rumours. Hence, many immoral folks are using this opportunity to make dishonest bucks. Well, good luck with that coz anyone who is trying to undermine or defame our girls will be cursed with “troublex3”.
Consider yourself warned, as the lyrics of Hoot implies.
Good post greeentee, it’s objective enough for me. In the end, the TV station loses more money than what it aspired to gain.
I wonder what would have happened if this (incident) happened in Korea instead, can totally imagine k-sones “destroying” the station…
Jokes aside, the hosts didn’t sound like they knew much about SNSD – they probably didn’t care who appeared in the pictures either. I’d like to think that it was the mistake of one poor staff who had to prepare some visual material for the show…and boy did he/she made the wrroooonng choice… 🙂
101111 Taiwan STV Apologize to SMENT (en)
The latest Episode of Fate is Really Fun/Play with Fate (命運好好玩)(MYHHW)
was aired 20101111.
The Title of the Clip above is misleading. They did not apologize.
What they said :
1). There is mis-understanding because Korean media do not fully
understand Chinese and their program…(e.g. K-media mixed up
Chen(or Chan) Ling Ling and female star Qian Ling Ling).
I can fully understand Chinese, and I do know they are trying to
change the focus to cover their mistake and “keep their face”.
2). They were talking about a trend in general,… not mentioning
But they replayed video clips of previous episode containing the misleading
newspaper clip with SNSD’s photo (the MISTAKE) twice without any
They are intended to do so, this time it is NOT A MISTAKE!
3). The female guest Chen Ling Ling’s explanation is the most
rediculous point. They used the mis-leading newspaper clip as
The MC introduced Chen as “Experienced Ent. Reporter”. Maybe, she
is experienced in manipulating news.
4). At the beginning of the program, the female MC Kelly Kuo (郭靜純)
teased Korean that MYHHW now gets more popular… but Korean may say
MYHHW is a Korean variety show….
She was intended to provoke audience’s anti-Korean sentiment.(Background
info only: Cultural conflicts(Confucius is Korean, Mid-Autumn Festival issue),
Economic Conflicts(Korean TV drama threatening Taiwanese TV drama, SamSung
threatening Taiwan’s Electronics industry)). This MISTAKE is much more serious!
The male MC Mr. Ho(何篤霖) also teased SMENT. that they are very scared of
the lawsuit and waiting for it. This implied that they do not afriad the
lawsuit at all.
So this is nothing about apology.
The misleading newsclip in previous episode may be a careless mistake.
I just think they are not professional. But this episode makes me very angry
because they are lying and they think all the audience are idiots.
I hate to write such kind of reply. But I cannot pretend not knowing…
If this reply is inappropriate, please delete it.