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Recently, SNSDKorean.com has had the pleasure of being interviewed by fellow J-pop site selective-hearing.com. Like the staffers here at SK, the site is compromised of staffers who listen to music ranging from alternative rock, house and hip-hop to their favorite genre: Japanese Pop (J-Pop).
Check out their site that covers news and music from AKB48, Morning Musume, Berryz, C-ute, SoundWitch, Buono! and more to even local anime conventions.
Here’s the first raw interview with Selective-Hearing’s Thatonezombie and stay-tuned for the next part including more of our staff:
MAEniac: I’m a former college radio DJ, non-Korean Cali girl livin in Korea and teaching Engrish for the last year and a half. I only know enough survival Korean to get me around and order food.. (haven’t had a problem yet, but yesterday for some reason the food delivery service asked me if I had a bf —it was a woman asking o_O?) SNSD inspired me to come to Korea and become my own person one fateful day when I walked into a noraebang in my hometown and saw Gee playing on the flatscreen…I’ve dabbled in Starcraft on and off since I was in junior high and the other day my students challenged me to a 2vs2. …..I’m afraid to lose to them. (Laughs)
TOZ: How’s life?
MAEniac: In the here and now? Umm…… if you asked me a year ago I would have said great. But as of right now… I feel like I’m getting complacent.
TOZ: Complacent you say?
TOZ: That’s weird to hear, to be honest; it feels like SM & SNSD has gotten complacent even during probably their most popular with their music. Personally, where is SNSD for you, musically?
MAEniac: IMHO, SNSD is not the first group I’d listen to for the K-pop genre.
TOZ: Who would you say? Fin.K.L? S.E.S?
MAEniac: (Laughs) That’s hella old school!
TOZ: You know how I do.
MAEniac: I ain’t madatchu. I’m more of a mellow kinda chick.. so when I just want tunes to bop my head to.. I’ll turn on some MC Sniper. No idea what he’s sayin, but the beats remind me of Nujabes (RIP) and boy do I love me some Nujabes.
TOZ: RIP to nujabes for sure. I always thought Nujabes and J. Dilla were cut from the same cloth.
TOZ: Their beats hit like some old-school shit, but it was progressive as well.
MAEniac: Fasho fasho. I like classy.
TOZ: Their stuff was like Mad Men the show. Their style is obviously based in the 60s but the classiness is sort of updated for 2012’s aesthetic.
MAEniac: Who doesn’t like classy? (Snooki)
TOZ: Shots fired.
TOZ: So if someone fairly new to Asian pop in general wanted to try out K-pop? You would hold back on telling them SNSD?
MAEniac: I’d ask ‘em a series of questions … cause you know K-pop is some serious bidness. I’d ask if they prefer boys/girls .. solo artists/groups…how much time you really wanna invest in K-pop. Cause once you jump on the wagon..
TOZ: You can’t jump off.
MAEniac: That’s pretty much your social life from here till you die. (Laughs)
TOZ: Let’s talk SNSDKorean then. I’ve been a regular reader for years now.
MAEniac: Much obliged.
TOZ: I remember when ya’ll had the chatroll and when you rolled out the first podcast.
MAEniac: OH GAW— yo man the chatroll … it almost broke me the first time around. I almost got banned. It was madness. Straight up.
TOZ: If you want madness, jump into the JPH!P IRC chatroom one day. (shameless plug)
MAEniac: Shoot me the link son, how you gon’ play a homegirl?
TOZ: I gotchu.
MAEniac: Yo, “chatroll” might be back.
MAEniac: The funny thing though is, I was on vacation for the last 5-6 weeks… I come back and the staffers, espcially my co-betch in charge DT (Dreadtech) was like,
“Hey bitch. Guess what you missed?” (1st convo back mind you)
“..What’d I miss sukka?”
“Our first live podcast.”
“….OH FUCK OFF.”
I think the live recording’s running time was 5 hours?
TOZ: Actually, I was there for it. (Laughs)
MAEniac: Oh shit! Well then, the nitty gritty, if you would please, kind sir.
TOZ: There were problems with the video portion, but that’s how it is.
MAEniac: (Laughs) Damn, well 1st ones aren’t always gonna be smooth. Shout out to my dude Nukem for always being good with the edits. Looking forward to hearing it.
TOZ: They touched on a few subjects that interested me. The big one for me at least was the whole drama acting.
MAEniac: (Laughs) You know.. I really can’t wait till our next recording… I always end up saying some dumb controversial shit (for the sake of playing devil’s advocate.. or because I’m just being a dumb betch for not reading up on stuff) .. But I’m curious, what’d they say? Cause I had a whole lot… to say when I saw Jessica’s acting while I was away.
TOZ: There was a good lengthy talk about the kissing scene. Let’s be honest here, it’s her job. Actors kiss other actors all the time.
MAEniac: You know.. I think… not so much as when Yoona had her first on-screen kiss a while back but….. I would have liked to think that after Tiffany had her official kiss on Fame (which I saw and have a whole secret post to still put up on my opinions n play-by-plays of it) .. I would have liked to think the fans got a little more mature about it. And Fany’s kiss was like the first of a segue for the rest of SNSD to start kissing boys live on screen, i.e. Jessica.. then probably Yoona or Yuri, whoever kisses first.
TOZ: It’s one thing to be jealous of not being the person on the other end.
MAEniac: Were the fans bitching?
TOZ: Honestly, I don’t know.
MAEniac: Or at least during the podcast I mean?
TOZ: Typical response, some of them didn’t like it.
MAEniac: (Laughs) Grow the fuck up.
TOZ: Would I like to kiss Taeyeon? Hell yeah I would. But if she kisses another dude? What am I gonna do? Stop listening to the music?
MAEniac: Seriously. Oh is that what’s hot in streets of Seoul right now? Fans becoming anti-fans cause the girls are grown ass women kissing guys? I wasn’t aware.
TOZ: That brings me to another thing on my mind. Where the fandom comes from?
MAEniac: (Laughs) Should I plug in a corny comment?
TOZ: Go ahead.
MAEniac: Well I can’t speak for other fandoms, but s<3ne (sometimes spelled as Sones, the fangroup of SNSD) fandom comes from the heart; love in its purest form. Sike. Half of us are perverts.
TOZ: The only reason I began following SNSD in the first place was the music.
MAEniac: Oh that’s honorable. I follow them because their personalities make my day.
TOZ: Their personalities are great, seriously. But if I didn’t like the music, why would I stick around? But even if their personalities weren’t, Genie is still on point. I’ll bump Genie anyday of the week.
MAEniac: Like I said earlier, SNSD isn’t my first choice for K-pop music maybe… I’d start with Wonder Girls or 2ne1.. But in K-pop, I’ve never seen such a diverse group of individuals who were no doubt forced to be together. And are just collectively sane. But I do enjoy that SNSD always changes their music up.
I’m still waiting for them to finally just find their niche and stick with it. But at least I can pick and choose. “Yep, this worked well for you guys…. nope, y’all need a hire a diff producer.” E-tribe has still yet to prove me wrong. I don’t see why they just don’t go with them. I mean when I heard Teddy Riley (was involved) I was like oh shit! BLACKSTREET! That means SEX BALLADS ALL DAY ERYDAY! But then it ended up being like dance.. and I was like wtf?
TOZ: I totally thought Blackstreet too when I first heard he was on. But me and Greg on Selective Hearing think, he was long past his prime. And I don’t like The Boys, which makes it worse since they hit American TV with that song.
MAEniac: I’ve said it before in the podcasts… The Boys was their “safe” track. I would have been happier if it was Trick or something else.. but from a marketing perspective, I guess. The choreography was dope though, but Hyoyeon, I’m getting disappointed in your dance breaks. I’m not a pro dancer or anything but I’m just thinking if that was Jaebeom (random I know) he would kill a dance solo in those short 5 seconds.
TOZ: Well, even Jay-Z has wack tracks.
MAEniac: True true.
TOZ: I decided I won’t buy The Boys because although I would like them to maintain some sort of success in the west, for me to buy The Boys means it’s a vote of confidence saying “I want more of this!” while in reality I don’t. I’m not asking to go back to Gee or anything, I just want some evolution in the music. And I’m not sure The Boys was evolving in the right direction.
MAEniac: Look here’s my thing. I’m waiting for 2, maybe 3 things to happen:
1. I get my acapella track –there’s 9 fucking girls! That’s an entire choir right there. You’ve got your sopranos, mezzo’s to your altos (and everyone knows I love me the husky sounding girls: tiff, yul, hyo), and sunny/sica on that descant.
2. A sort of hip hop-ish track without it sounding too corny or whack.
3. Just a ballad I can straight up cry to. That’s all I want for Christmas/pre-disbandment.
TOZ: You brought up disbandment. IIRC, S.E.S had a rather odd disbandment. If and when that day drops, It’s not guaranteed, but do you think SNSD might have a similar thing with that?
MAEniac: We can only expect the worst but hope for the best… I think the best ending for me would be to see them fade out like Fin.K.L, i.e. never officially retire the name but everyone fade out in their own glory.
TOZ: For my J-pop heads out there, when Speed disbanded, that shit fucked me up back in the day.
TOZ: Although they have come back and put out new music, I still think about it. Call me crazy, but if we talk about a list of all-time greatest Asian pop groups, for me, Speed has to be up there, across all countries and eras. And the way SNSD is going, they have a good shot to be there. Maybe not in terms of quality of music, but in sheer numbers and movement. It’s the whole Kobe Bryant vs. MJ (Michael Jordan) thing. When Kobe finishes his career, there will be some that will say he was better because of the sheer numbers he will have. Minutes played, points scored, etc. But to compare Speed and SNSD is not even fair.
MAEniac: Different times, different situations.
TOZ: That plus language. At least Kobe and Jordan played the same game.
MAEniac: True, and the way Japan’s pop culture works. Side note: You know who’s still going strong? Boyz 2 Men. Now I can APPRECIATE that shit. I wish SNSD would do that.
TOZ: But we have the different cultures again.
MAEniac: Yeah I know. Just a point of reference.
TOZ: But, I’m still an SNSD fan. Even if I think the music hasn’t been there since Genie. Like Oh was okay, Hoot was alright, Run Devil Run is okay. Echo is straight up baller, but other than that, I can’t name a post-Genie song I really dug.
MAEniac: I’ve told myself that the day SNSD disbands is the day I stop following any group so actively. Well, I mean I’m done fangirling. When SNSD disbands, I’ll officially tell myself to grow the fuck up and act my age.
TOZ: Does your age change everyday?
MAEniac: HEY! A LADY NEVER TELLS HER AGE MISTER!!
TOZ: Not her true age maybe. You can be all, “I feel like 17 today.”
MAEniac: Like I said, the day they disband I’ll act my age, until then I’m gonna act like the 18 year old everybody thinks I am.
TOZ: Back to SNSDKorean. Again, I’ve been a reader for awhile now but for the past year or so, I’ve just been skimming the headlines. Only clicking on the articles I really want to see. which honestly isn’t much. I’ve hit a saturation point with the day to day stuff. But why keep going to the site? You never know, there might be something really cool that piques my interest. SNSDKorean is for people who do want the day to day operations. So your fanbase and most Sones really, knows really obscure shit about them. Like, me knowing that Tiffany likes to keep movie stubs and writes down the names of the people she saw the movie with on them freaks me out. Is there a fact you know about SNSD that makes you go, “Why do I know that?”
MAEniac: Does it have to be specifically about SNSD? (Laughs) How about 85% of the Korean language I know. “Why do I know that (word)? OH because of SNSD. Actually 85% of language AND culture was because of them. It still shocks my co-teachers when I say random words like choding or jashik.
TOZ: Inside joke.
MAEniac: Shoot, just because of Seohyun’s affiliation with sweet potatoes, I know it anywhere. I always think of her when I hear sweet potatoes. Seriously, sweet potatoes was never on my radar prior to coming to Korea.
*end of part 1*
Ha! Truer words have ne’er been said: “When SNSD disbands, I’ll officially tell myself to grow the fuck up and act my age.”
To fangirls not acting their age, *high five*! I’ll drink to that!
MEET YOU AT THE BOTTOM??
You know it! And the next bottom… and the next bottom.. and the next…
(p.s. My favorite Yuri scene!)
That was a nice read. It’s great to see two big SNSD fans (that are not as closed-minded as the majority of Sones out there) just talking like that. And I agree with almost all the points too. Keep it up!!
(and it seems I really can’t miss the next Invincible Youth episode… dear God O_O )
:]] It might be because the interviewer and I are part of the Ahjumma-Ahjusshi Dae generation. Haha :p
“When SNSD disbands, I’ll officially tell myself to grow the fuck up and act my age.” <– I'll put this on my wall. No. I'll put this on my gate. 😛
Pictures or it didn’t happen.
wkwkwk, all that gif so funny…..
sunny ahh….sexy and cute
taeng so dorky
thanks for this, during my overwork at night
Jayvee Perote said:
hahahaaha snsd robot is cool : dang kekekekeke (boing boing :3)
happy birthday kim taeyoen
snsd sc2 ftw!!
Watch out on Twitter for tweets when the staffers stream our matches live. …There’s a lot of lol smack talk :p
oh hohohoh when do yall cast?both soshi and sc2
any day from 7pm-midnight Korean Standard Time? Follow my twitter for updates: guacamolmae
MAE MAE…Oppa liked this! Thought I’d say so… I miss the chatroll days too….
YAY oppa comments! ❤
wanted to click “like” on ren’s comments coz ima bit lazy to comment, i realized this wasn’t fb…lol, nice updaets mae!
Haha cant wait for part 2! Thanks for the shout! Lol that troll pic is totally jjang!
Michael Sternestedt said:
that “Nujabes – Luv (SIC)” song makes me nostalgic even though i never heard it before
perhaps it is very 90s 🙂
if tiffany kissed me like in the clip above i should die on the spot 😆
if not my dear wife should finish the job 😆
and i must say that i am still totally sunnified, poisoned by aegyo i guess 😆
finally i must agree that i really enjoys listening to there music everything from “into a new world” to “time machine” and beyond
Nujabes was the main producer for the Samurai Champloo soundtrack if you’re into anime. :]
This essay would be better without the f word.
That’s fair. Curse words can make pieces less impactful but, this is more of a conversation rather than a “traditional” interview. If this was an one person, op-ed piece, then they would have probably been taken out, but this is just two friends speaking frankly. That’s why you have the Nujabes/J. Dilla talk in the beginning before diving into SNSD talk.
Again, I agree with you, but in the context of this piece and how it was created, I thought it should stay.
omg it’s a zombie!~~
I totally see where you’re coming from Jiho. ^_^ But as toz said, this was definitely not like a formal interview, but two people just being real with each other in casual conversation.
Ultimately, it’s up to toz in what is published and he decided to keep it raw. So this is our result ^_^. The next interview won’t be as “ratchet” since the other staffers aren’t as crazy as me. Haha.
Dustin Griffin said:
These types of articles are my favorite. Looking forward to part 2.
These types of comments are my favorite. Looking forward to part 2. ….ㄱㄱㄱ.
“When SNSD disbands, I’ll officially tell myself to grow the fuck up and act my age.”
Ill commit suicide as I have nothing to life for when this moment occured.
Now, now. SNSD wouldn’t want that. :s
well i think if that day comes every sone in the world will be in a pit of shock D:
Tiff just said in an interview with America’s “spin” magazine thatcher contract ends in a few years and she is gonna go back and further her career in the US
I’m really sorry to burst your bubble
Awesome and fun article so far. I actually like a fun little bit of snark and bite in my SNSD news. Too much fawning on them creeps me out.
You should check out the podcasts then if you haven’t :] A buncha staffers talking over each other in disagreements with different accents is total shenanigans.
“I think the best ending for me would be to see them fade out like Fin.K.L, i.e. never officially retire the name but everyone fade out in their own glory”.
Yeah !! i never wanted to hear about them retirement or disbanded in maybe 5 years from now.. In future, I’m glad to hear when people still called their name by saying our girls are once SNSD group members. 😀
which show is the first gif with sunny in the swimming pool?
Invincible Youth 2
Episode 13 (but it’s actually a preview of episode 14, that didn’t air yet)
Gah… So hard to read with all the cursing..
:< The next part won't be as "dirty," 나는 약속한다.
OMG ALL HAIL TO THE SPEED! I still remember the hand movements to All My True Love. lol
I agree, it’s a different time, country and culture, but if SNSD keeps going as they have, they can probably reach the same status as SPEED. Anything is possible with these girls. 😀
As for endings, a Fin.K.L. type ending would be ideal, but I hope they get back together and do charity projects like SPEED did after disbandment. That might be difficult though, since SPEED disbanded in their late teens-early 20s, whilst SNSD members are coming into their mid-20s. They’d really be Ahjumma Shidae then. lol
YES YES YES YES YES YES!
I made my Speed comment, hoping someone would get it. Now I’m vindicated. If SNSD went on to have a Speed type of career, that would be good.
I wanna shoot for Halmoni (Grandma) Shi Dae. Any takers? :p
loved the snsd gifs..is there any way i can make them?
just google how to make .gifs, you’ll need some sorta program tho.
Omgosh, I was just reading an interview that Tiffany had with American “spin” and she was like she wants to come back to America and sing and act there when her contract with SM ends in a few years
That broke my heart, but honestly Snsd is famous for being Snsd
Let’s not worry about it until the time comes eh? :]
I never had such great expectations out of this article but it was far more entertaining than I have hoped for!!!! I loved it!
And like what you said, when SNSD disbands, it’ll be the end of my with these gurl groups and by then, I will start to act my age… And I’m almost an ahjumma! Ugh!
But my love for SNSD will not die. It’s like when I started being a fan of BoA 11 years ago. Coz I still am :3
Are you an 80’s baby too? PRE-AHJUMMAS UNITE! lololol. BoA …. Korean debut BoA? or Jpop BoA? :3
I started with J-pop BoA, then went back tracked to her Korean debut. My first BoA encounter was ‘Every Heart’. I’m originally an animé otaku before I involved myself with a different fadom that’s why it was my first song.
So basically, I’ve been a fan for 10 or 11yrs without fail. With that experience, I’m sure I’ll be the same supporting our SNSD gurls :3
And to answer your other question, I’m also an 80’s baby… Ahhh! I’m seriously an ahjumma!!!
@MAEniac Never knew you were an old school Rap/ Hip hop/R&B listener, thats friggin awesome. I wanted to ask your opinion on this, but: do you think SNSD isn’t promoting the song “Trick” because it sounds a little too much like “Genie”? In terms of the melody and progression of the chorus. Both songs are sung in different keys, but I would honestly be intrigued with a mash up of the two songs 😀
Oh yea man. R&B/90’s is my true passion, but I dabbled in Old School/Underground Hip Hop for a bit in high school and uni when I was trying the d.j. bit out. I don’t think “Trick” sounds as much like “Genie” as it is a cross between maybeeee both “You-a-holic” and “Great Escape” and a little of Brown Eyed Girls’ producers? They’re probably running all at the same tempo so a mash-up wouldn’t be too hard. A lot of B.E.G.’s songs actually mash pretty well with SNSD’s.. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more mixes.
Also, the concept of The Boys.. may have been just easier for marketing promotions too and SM is just not necessarily trying to exactly “evolve” the sound SNSD is projecting. We’ll never know what their management was thinking since we don’t currently have anyone working on the inside hnnggh~ :<
Haha that would be awesome if you guys were able to get someone to work for SM, particularly while the girls are still there, but I guess thats wishful thinking.
Yeah, I never thought of how some of B.E.G. and SNSD’s songs were similar in that way, very interesting. And in regards to the marketing concept of “The Boys”, I definitely agree. Though, I do kinda wish SM evolved the girls’ sound
But, thanks for that insight to my question! I was just wondering because I personally like “Trick” more than “The Boys”. Seems like a good song they’d bump in clubs in Korea.
To be honest, I’ve only heard SNSD a handful of times in the normal clubs, SNSD/Kpop is played more frequently at the “nigh-tu’s” (night clubs). Y.G. has a lockdown on most normal clubs in the university scenes though :<.
socha asd said:
Life goes on for each one of us and especially for each member of SNSD it self
I agree with that SNSD don’t have so many great songs. So why do I listen to them? I listen to the ones I like. I haven’t heard so many korean groups, so I can’t tell which one is better in my opinion, but I don’t think SNSD is the best. Either way, they’re my favourite k-pop band.
Doesn’t make any sense, huh? xD
And yes, there are so many things we actually know about our idols that’s not even important! ^^ Kinda funny.
This interview is amazing. You guys spoke a lot about how I felt with the Girl’s progress (musically) over the years. Yeah, Genie was probably my last big one too, I still play it often. Oh!, RDR and Hoot were just ok in my books. The Boys? I wanna stab Teddy Riley so bad. E-Tribe all the way Baybeh! XD So basically the girls themselves (attitude, image and performance-wise) are pretty much what’s keeping me hooked now.
I just recently walked tht fine line into the Ahjusshi phase of my life, and Maeniac sure hit a note with me when she mentioned abt disbandment and growing up. Word, girl! XD Though I probably wld buy an album or 2 from a few new bands, nothing will probably come close to SNSD’s EPICNESS LOL.
I guess we all gotta move on. I would still love to see the girls live before I do though T_T anybody with me? XD
I agree to some of your comments. If we SONES actually get real, they are not the best group when it comes musically. They don’t usually have the best tracks to showcase everything they are capable of… But they are not just popular because of music. They are EPIC because they have a strong mix of charisma and personality. I think that’s really one of the things that attract SONES. And I do love them for that. I enjoy their interviews and variety shows most especially :3
And all of the members fill in other members shortcomings. It’s admirable. It’s something non-SONEs don’t understand sadly… And if I may be bold enough to say so myself, it’s the main root of all antis >___<
True true meng. :] Stay tuned for more interviews!
best rack in kpop.
Gosh I love this interview. You’re like speaking my mind.
“I’ve told myself that the day SNSD disbands is the day I stop following any group so actively. Well, I mean I’m done fangirling. When SNSD disbands, I’ll officially tell myself to grow the fuck up and act my age.”
I told myself this every freaking time I check on SSF, Snsdkorean or Soompi which is like several time a day. But I wouldn’t mind fangirling over them forever though.
wow mae nice updates…dont know how long it was since chatroll days or if you still remember me..^__^, i see ren is still watching out for the updates here..
and wait TOZ is an admin now?…anyways, keep those updates commin’ guys. good job!..
Oh snap its flint! *waves*
I’m not an admin on SK but I write for Selective Hearing, thus creating the crossover.
*waves back* oh nice one TOZ, nice to know you guys are active with the posts!^__^
also mae as well, lol its been a long time since chatroll days, i wish chatroll would be back…
anyways nice to hear from you guys again…^__^
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“The choreography was dope though, but Hyoyeon, I’m getting disappointed in your dance breaks.”
People rarely talk about Hyoyeon, and when they talk, they talk bad about her! She is a wonderful dancer, and has a beautiful voice, she deserves to be popular and loved! She is very dedicated and very pretty, that’s why she deserves respect and attention!
Hyoyeon, you’ll always be my favorite SNSD, 난 널 사랑해!