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We’re keeping it real real this podcast.
The following podcast may upset/offend you or at the very least, blow your mind.
Listen as we argue about why the MAMAwards is still the most rigged show in K-Pop history, SNSD’s potential fail with the debut of the new “Dangerous Boys” TV show concept, our Australian kangaroos and koalas staffers herpderpin’ Taeyeon and Yoona in Sydney, and our review of Tiffany’s new musical FAME (the good, the bad, and the ugly)… oh and there’s a little rant for you ANTI’s too (the following .gif is dedicated to y’all).
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@MAEniac, I see that you mentioned “tumblr” in the tags; may I follow you? xD what’s your tumblr?
My tumblr may not be safe for work if you start following… and i usually only “like” my favorites… but maybe if i get an influx of followers i’ll start reblogging all the crazy crap i have… :]
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Thanks! lol it’s okay 🙂
want more moving pics xd
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the girl don’t know what the fvck she is talking about as far as the MAMA is concerned. basically the artists said, if they don’t receive an award, they won’t show up, this was said in the korean music journal. so basically the artists want to know if they are going to get an award period. im not sure the girl would say it was rigged if 2ne1 won the artist of the year award.
FIRST AND FOREMOST:
Thanks for commenting. (Haha.)
Second, I (obviously) wasn’t aware of the whole “the artists said, if they don’t receive an award, they won’t show up, this was said in the korean music journal.” –that makes sense, thus further CONFIRMING my initial argument. In the podcast I said, “the artists that were there because they were going to perform OR were going to receive an award.” But like you said, “if they don’t receive an award, they won’t show up” –so everyone who showed up got an award. Cool story. No argument there.
My argument is: did MAMA let SM win the BIG AWARDS to satisfy the strained relationship they had prior?
And in my opinion: yes, they did.
Because if MAMA was a FAIRER awards show based purely on VIEWER’S CHOICE then SUJU AND 2NE1 would have won a HELLUVA lot more awards just by the online polls, and SNSD shouldn’t have won any AT ALL because they were third in most categories when the polls closed, am I correct?
So if it’s NOT VIEWER’S CHOICE determining who the winner is, WHO IS the head honcho deciding which music group deserves what? That’s when it becomes backdoor politics.
What MAMA needs is transparency –how did they come to the conclusion that SNSD deserved so and so award, 2NE1 gets this, and etc. etc. That’s the problem: NO ONE KNOWS HOW the winner is determined after the polls close.
And this is why I call MAMA “rigged,” although it may a bit too strong of a word to use. (Any readers that have a handy dandy thesaurus go ahead and throw me a synonym.)
Lastly, IF 2NE1 won the Artist of the Year Award –THEN THEY WON. GOOD FOR THEM. I LOVE 2NE1. MOAARRRR AWARDS FOR THEM!! There’s no argument here.
I had no expectations of SNSD to win anything in the first place because we were so behind in the online polls… therefore I bring up my above argument again: THEY WERE BEHIND IN THE POLLS SO HOW/WHY DID THEY WIN?!
This applies to ALL GROUPS. If B2ST was 3rd place in all the polls and they won Best Male Group and Artist of the Year, I’d still be like: “BUT 3RD PLACE ONLINE… WTF?????”
/endrant
Good day sir.
Mama voting was not rigged to my understanding because online voting only determined 20% of the outcome
How can you even think that an award ceremony can only be based on electronic votes. There are multiple automated voting bots on internet and it isn’t hard to make one yourself. How can you even consider something like that fair.
The nominees were judged by professional music critics, official sale statistics and then there was the viewer rating. Add all of those factors together and you get an award ceremony that in my opinion is FAIR. Just my 2 cents.
Good sir,
I completely agree with what you’re saying. :]] That’s why I said “a fairer” awards show not “FAIREST,” there’s no way in hell that solely online voting would be fair. (For example, like the first season of America’s Best Dance Crew –Jabbawockeez vs STATUS QUO …. WTF WAS THAT? /endrant)
…And after several comments on this post and seeing the actual judging criteria… I’m beginning to see the transparency that I was originally asking for (if you scroll through the comments you’d see that), (also, thank you to the listeners who helped me).
However ANYBODY still has yet to answer my OTHER question: Did MAMA give SM the big awards only to satiate the strained relationship they had prior?
Alas, this is a question that no one except the MAMA committee would know :<
Thanks for your 2 cents, it's appreciated.
snsd was winning at first, if u didnt kno suju armed together to vote against snsd for every category thus making 2ne1 win. however, in the artist of the year, song of the year, 2ne1 was way behind snsd. this voting is just their fans, not suju helping them. so the voting was unfair and MAMA knew that.
…any chance you wanna listen to that part again?
just sayin….our 5-10 minute convo shouldn’t have boiled down to one point….
if all the artists were told that they’d get an award, doesn’t that mean the whole thing was rigged? and not just for SM?
i believe the online voting ended 25th and the show was on 29th. the artists/companies had to have been told before the 25th that they’d get an award to prepare to go from korea to singapore. i’d think they’d need more time than mere 3-4 days to plan for the flight (for the staff, and not just the group members), decide what special performance to do and how to set up the stage, prepare the outfits for the performance, and practice . . .
logistically, i don’t think it’d have been possible to wait until the voting ended on the 25th to learn that they’d won and decide to attend.
actually, wasn’t it announced in advance who’d be attending?
lol luv the QUIET TIFFANY thing
where the heck do u get these from? I must know O.O G.I.F…t them to meee.
(this was probably the worst play on words i’ve ever done… just sayin)
tumblr’s a helluva drug.
Awesome podcast guys/gals 😉 ! Good Job 😀 !!!
Got to agree with you all on the MAMA Awards, the performances were out of this world good (I was there to witness it “live”-managed to get a ticket to the event :).) !
http://mama.mnet.com/en/award_info.asp
i hope that link could solve all of your argument, there we can see the judging standard for the nominees, thank you for all of your concerned 🙂 SONE FOR LIVE!!
Why thank you! Now I have a statistical breakdown. This helps a lot, I appreciate it.
People ranting over how MAMA was rigged, please research before you make such a bold statement….
There were 4 factors that determined the winners. Online votings, albums sales, respected judges across the globe and digital search of the group in that particular gatergory on the Daum website. So stop complaining how it’s rigged, cause your kinda ruining the glory for not only snsd but all of the winners
Cool story bro.
It’s good to know that there’s more factors involved in determining the winner, and it somewhat answers the transparency question, but the SM/MNet relations question is left to be unanswered.
And by the way, this blog is a free forum. You’re free to complain, just as am I.. (But don’t forget you were also fore-warned that these discussions may be racy.)
Bashing will also not be allowed. Spanks. :]
Hi there,
just to let you know, 20% doesn’t assure you to win an award. And perhaps that will solve your doubts.
And whether it was rigged or not, no one can confirm. Maybe SNSD are leading way ahead of other groups in other judging classification.
Why are you so mean ? Some people here were just pointing the fact that you were wrong on one point, no big deal, no need to be like “cool story”.
Anyway, I’m glad snsd won 2 awards, I’m very very very proud ! ^^
@tsktsk Thank you for posting! I’m seeing that through all these other user comments :]]
Oh Yeah?! well… YO MAMA SO FAT PEOPLE JOG ARO………damn it! and I’ve been holding that one in for a month T_T
this. if one’s going to rant, one should have at least educated oneself first.
Impromptu discussion leads to impromptu discussion. :]]
That’s why you guys are here, to misinform us/my dumb ass.
Much obliged. :]
http://www.soompi.com/forums/topic/341781-%e5%b0%91%e5%a5%b3%e6%99%82%e4%bb%a3-girls-generation-snsd-%ec%86%8c%eb%85%80%ec%8b%9c%eb%8c%80-official-thread-3/page__view__findpost__p__17504623
http://www.soompi.com/forums/topic/341781-%e5%b0%91%e5%a5%b3%e6%99%82%e4%bb%a3-girls-generation-snsd-%ec%86%8c%eb%85%80%ec%8b%9c%eb%8c%80-official-thread-3/page__view__findpost__p__17504717
read the posts to educate yourself.
ROFLMFAO at the “Be quiet, Tiffany” gif xD HAHA.
we have to respect everyone’s opinion the fact that our girls won ..that’s all matters for me a lot kekekekeke
hahahahaha this is funny… tyra banks and tiffany…. kekekekek
hey maeniac..im totally agree with ur saying..as known the artist that didnt show up didnt get the awards at all..and those who show up will surely show up on that show.
what i want to ask ir..what exactly is the motive of MAMA awards on telling the result to the k-pop artist?why did the company did that?to spend less expenses?it is ridiculous-.-
I just wanted to know if there is a forum or something where I can stream soshicast live? or is it like every few days a podcast comes out?
We’re working on making it live… we’ve tried several methods and still have yet to come up with something (‘cuz we’d love to have our frequent listeners join us in discussion) :< .. we do a podcast every month.. but for the month of December there may be 2~ so please keep a look out ^_^.
Going on about MAMA, not anything the argument….
Do you have any links of good MAMA’s red carpet for SNSD?
Like they were all so hot, but I can’t seem to find any good pictures :S
Also can you put up the jessica “sailing” thing you were talking about :)? thanks a lot!
here ya go~ http://kagomeshipo.tumblr.com/post/13609157231/devastatic-of-course
AHAHAHA Now I finally get what the podcast was talking about 😛
I wish I could find good Red Carpet Pictures :(, they were all so goregous
It’s funny how there was never any talk about MAMA’s being rigged until YG artists stopped winning the big awards…..lol
I feel like most of the arguments about SNSD not “deserving” to win are riddled with the intent to discredit an award achieved by 9 hardworking females.
Not everyone who won show up
IU won an award ans she wasn’t there.
as u said IU didnt show up although she won the awards..but wad about the other artist who didnt show up?they didnt get any awards..am i right?
Just felt like I should come out and say that we didn’t really research the actual “debate” topic before hand and it was an impromptu discussion which is why there were a lot of assumptions thrown around.
Here are the judging criteria from MAMA’s website for your viewing pleasure:
MAMA has always been a rigged award show, but YG people think its legit. Just look at 2009 and 2010. 2009 and 2010 were SNSD’s year, but they didn’t win crap. MAMA gave awards to 2ne1…Now that MAMA gave an award to SNSD(which they totally deserved, 227k album sold in 12 days.)…YG people are saying MAMA is a bias award show. i loled
I know right?! Hypocrites all around….
Can I just say that I agree with Mae. 🙂
Oh, and great podcast! i enjoyed!!! Keep doing podcasts guys :]
i agree to may or mae (correct me if the spelling is wrong) so anyways i agree to u that sunny’s looking hot in there red carpet at the MAMA awards ….. yep beacause her body ratio is good 😀